Eternal Israel – Excerpt from Council of My Nation

When one reads God’s declaration “This nation I have formed for Myself” (Isaiah 43:21), one must recognize that “this nation” is an entity that includes living Jews of every generation. “The children of Israel shall guard the Sabbath” (Exodus 31:16) refers to an observance that continues to sanctify people that live in your own neighborhood. “The council of My nation” (Ezekiel 13:9) is a council that abides from the times of Moses until this very day. “You are My witnesses” (Isaiah 43:10,11) is God’s declaration, not only to Jews who lived long ago, but to Jews who are alive today. Those who read these words and understand them as a reference to a “new” Israel (i.e. the Christian Church) cannot hope to begin to comprehend scripture. The people who pay lip-service to the concept of the eternal chosen-ness of Israel, but eviscerate the concept of all meaning (i.e. – by believing that the Christian Church is the only witness that can be trusted) are not much nearer to the message of scripture. These can be compared to one who attempts to read a wedding invitation while denying the existence of the bride. Those who reject Israel’s unique standing as God’s firstborn son should not expect to appreciate the words of Israel’s Father.

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38 Responses to Eternal Israel – Excerpt from Council of My Nation

  1. hyechiel says:

    Dear Friends;
    I read the Gospels as declearatioins in intent; the intent to pull themselves away from His Torah, and to Rome, while ho;ding on to what would attrack the Jewisn and G-dfearing masses.
    They succeeded, except for one thing, G-d has preserved us until this day, as He promised.
    Shalom to those who do believe in the One, true G-d, and my prayers for those who are searching.

    • Yes Jehovah God is one Jehovah ! Proverbs 8 , 22 through 35 his only Son was brought forth ! He then became the master worker before the world was then Gen 1 , 26 God said let us make man in our image ! The name Michael means one who is like God Daniel 12 , 1 After all a prince becomes a king ! he then was given a new name Phil 2 , 9 Isaiah 53 Now we know that Jehovah YHWH all ways was and will be the most high over all the earth compare Psalms 83 , 18

      • hyechiel says:

        Dear Daniel;
        You did not answer the obvious questions about His having a parent or offspring, or in Proverbs, the sex of Wisdom. Also this little item;
        Judaism gins faith through expeience, Christianity manufactors faith by saying this is what we want, and find ways to make up ways to show it.
        YOU ignore what contradicts your desire to show, we retain our faith through knowing G-d is True. You, do butruss your view, has to convence others, we are convence, at least of the basiscs, so we have no drive to convert othres; you do.
        As a result of the backwards way you present your faith, and that many Christians read these and others like them, then read the Tanach as it is, and over a million Christiains have converted to Judaism and many more to Noahide faith.
        What you are doing is not attracting us to what He said already, is it not acceptable (except those ignorant of His Word), but chasing many good Christians to seek the truth, and choosing an other way to approach G-d.
        The good part is that many whose ancestors were forcably converted to Christianity or Islam, are being shown a way to His truth, and returning to their Grandparents and Great Grandparents faith. So mayby, as the number of returnees outnumber the number of ignorant Jews you mis-lead, we should be greatful. We are not, because there is no “Kosher” way to miss with a person’s soul.
        But, I leave it to the G-d of Abraham to work out the details, while many Christians are reading the Tanach now, with eyes open and coming up to Judaism/His Torah.

        • My grandfather was fluent in Hebrew and loved Jehovah God He came to this country ! He would be over 110 if living today Ezekiel 18 , 4 Ecc 9 , 5 and 10 Psalms 146 , 1 through 4 I all so love Daniel 12 , 1 through 4 We are in the time of the end Daniel 11 , 40 through 43 Where is the king of the south now dabbling in verse 43 [ I pray all the time Jehovah God leads me in the path of what is right ! It means my life all so !

          • Yes Jehovah has no parents [ He all ways was ] He is one Jehovah ] Proverbs 8 , 22 through 35 God created or brought forth the master worker ! He is in know way equal to God ! He is like him because they have the same purpose and has been approved Because Jehovah found favor in him ! Gen 1 , 26

          • hyechiel says:

            Dear Danny;
            Name the Master Worker.

          • hyechiel says:

            Dear Danny;
            I understand your view. What many of us do not realize is that Daniel was a hero a century before the captivity, mentioned in Ezekiel. The “end-times” referred to in Daniel was the endof the Bybilonian and Persian Empiers as theyknew them.
            It was common then to incert your oppinion into a known person’s writings, so that your ideas could get a hearing.
            In the next post you sent me, i showed one way this was done, to present an idea or view that may have more relivance at the time it was expressed.

        • Again to Daniel 11 , 40 through 43 refers to the time of the end because Daniel 12 at this same time of the end ! Jehovah promised Daniel he would stand up at the end of days Amos 9 , 1 through 4 Jehovah foretold that at the time of the end He said though fly to the heavens I will bring ! though they hide from me on the floor of the sea I will command the sea serpent to bite them ! What other generation but now can man fly to the heavens ! And yes some times history repeats it self as foretold in Rev 18 , again Babylon the great ! It said that was found [ in her ] the blood of all the saints though who been slain or killed in all the earth 1 False religion has been blessing killing in the Name of God Islam even the Catholic Faith the pop blessed Hitler ! If the pop would have told the people not to give them there power or he did not bless him ! Maybe 20 + 6 million people would not have died ! they gave there blessing ! [ so yes Babylon fell back in Bible times Her water dried up they came in and put a end to the great city ! yes they had a end of days their ! Daniel 2 , 44 Said at that time the God of the Heavens will bring and end to all these Kings !! And set up Gods Kingdom that will stand for ever ! Even Jesus told Peter to return your sword to his side who ever lives by the sword will die by it ! He went on to say My people are no Part in killing ! Even the country s who clam to come in Jesus name pass laws for abortion which now they have killed more than Hitler dream of killing !

  2. Annelise says:

    I want to reread Council of My Nation… this is exactly the thing. A lot of Christians reject replacement theology but then still tell observant Jews that their testimony is worth nothing compared to that of Christian Jews and Christians in general. The message held by people who have been keeping the covenant law and passing it on through generations is replaced by the message of a different group whose claims aren’t acceptable. That in itself is unjust, unwise, and unholy.

    • Paul summers says:

      Hello. I think we have spoken before? May I ask if you observe the Sabbath and how do you observe it?

      • Annelise says:

        Hi Paul, okay… I’m not Jewish ,none of my parents have any Jewish background, as far as I know. So I don’t observe any of the specifically Jewish commandments. I don’t try to follow the Torah except for the parts that are relevant to everyone. But I do experience the Sabbath because on Friday afternoons/nights and Saturdays I go to synagogues and to Orthodox Jewish people’s houses. I believe that I’m able to honour the Sabbath and be blessed by it, and part of that is by not keeping its laws as if they weren’t a personal part of God’s relationship with Israel. Then I would be undermining what that is, as well as being blind to the type of personal relationship He has with me. The day is definitely set apart in my week and I love sharing it.

        When I was a Christian I used to believe that it was wise and good, and maybe important, to keep a day of rest. I didn’t make a set day, sometimes it would be Sunday and sometimes another day. I didn’t put boundaries on myself apart from the basic idea that I wouldn’t do any time-pressing work of the nature of university assignments/reading or paid employment for one day a week, and it would be a special day to spend with God and people and being refreshed with the lack of constraints. It was to honour what I thought He wanted and also because I needed it to structure my week. Now, I believe that the Sabbath is specifically for Jews so I don’t keep it at all… but I still try to keep the day clear because spending time with God and the community on that day is very special and valuable. I actually usually travel about 7 hours all up to get to and from both services, so it’s not entirely restful, but it’s a pretty amazing thing and a big gift.

        • cflat7 says:

          Any thoughts about Isaiah 56:6?

          • Annelise says:

            I think that is probably referring to converts to Judaism. The choice to do that is a choice to join the specific Sinai covenant, and it’s a choice I haven’t made for a few reasons that are important to me. I’m waiting to see which direction to go in with that. But the prophets also speak about a time when all nations will know Israel’s God and will have the same beliefs as the Jewish people, yet they will be other nations serving *alongside* Israel. As to the people in this verse, if they decided to join the Sinai covenant, rather than just seeking God as gentiles… maybe they would feel inferior or left out or different. But this prophecy says that God loves and completely accepts them in.

            If you see any of this differently, or read differently, I’m very open to hear about it. From what I can see, what I’m saying makes sense because of the fact that only that particular nation is called to keep the Torah covenant. For example, God promised Abraham that all nations would be blessed through him; maybe this suggests that the nations will keep their identities and be blessed by the first nation that got to know and share God. Zechariah 14 sees that all the nations that once attacked Israel will one day join in their belief and worship in Jerusalem during Sukkot, it doesn’t say they’ll become Jewish. The Jews have a very unique experience and a very important message, and part of that is preserved and expressed by being set apart from the others. So for me to honour that means to love God in the way that is mine and not pretend to own what is set apart from me. It’s not inferiority, it’s just different roles and different ways; whatever God gives each of us is as valuable as it can be between Him and us.

          • Annelise says:

            PS this is why you don’t see the prophets criticising other nations for not keeping the Sabbath or kashrut etc., and you don’t see Jonah telling Ninevah to do those things either.

  3. Shomer says:

    The eternal Israel consists of two houses, the house of Yehuda and the house of Israel/Ephraim. The latter is also called “the lost 10 tribes”. I am anticipating the day when the remnant of the so-called lost tribes will return. Until then the people of Israel are incomplete. Neviim predict that the house of Israel will have to return. When we consider Luke 15:11-32 we can see this point clearly if we want to. To Christians the so-called prodegal son is a non-believer who becomes a Christian but they forget that Yeshua was a Jew. But I do read here that a former Christian e. g. returns to the house of the FATHER after leaving the swine. Consider the reaction of the elder brother in the story. “My Nation” are two entities, today, who need to be re-united. Jews (the elder brother) very often are unaware of this because they obey the Mitzvot as the elder brother was unaware that there was a brother existing who hat to return to the house of the FATER.

  4. hyechiel says:

    Dear Paul;
    Your question does not obliterate the fact that Gospel, due to it’s disagreeements with Tanach, cannot be accepted by any Jew, and that any Jew who expects to keep his salvation must reject the Gospel.
    Worship of a human = idolitry. As G-d said He has no son, you have no excuse.
    My questioin to you is; do you reject idolitry?

    • If you say God had no Son please see Proverbs 30 , verse 4 a?? from God Jehovah God YHWH [proverbs 8 , 22 through 35 He then became the master worker approved by God !

      • hyechiel says:

        Dear Daniel;
        Read all of each section. They tell a different story. Also, G-d tells us a much different story!
        Proverbs Chapter 8
        8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness, there is nothing perverse or crooked in them.
        9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
        10 Receive my instruction, and not silver, and knowledge rather than choice gold.
        11 For wisdom is better than rubies, and all things desirable are not to be compared unto her.
        12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of devices.
        13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil; {N}
        pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
        14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom; I am understanding, power is mine.
        15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
        16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
        17 I love them that love me, and those that seek me earnestly shall find me.
        18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, enduring riches and righteousness.
        19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my produce than choice silver.
        20 I walk in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of justice;
        21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance, and that I may fill their treasuries.
        22 The LORD made me as the beginning of His way, the first of His works of old.
        23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
        24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
        25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth;
        26 While as yet He had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the beginning of the dust of the world.
        27 When He established the heavens, I was there; when He set a circle upon the face of the deep,
        28 When He made firm the skies above, when the fountains of the deep showed their might,
        29 When He gave to the sea His decree, that the waters should not transgress His commandment, when He appointed the foundations of the earth;
        30 Then I was by Him, as a nursling; and I was daily all delight, playing always before Him,
        31 Playing in His habitable earth, and my delights are with the sons of men. {P}
        32 Now therefore, ye children, hearken unto me; for happy are they that keep my ways.
        33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
        34 Happy is the man that hearkeneth to me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
        35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.
        36 But he that misseth me wrongeth his own soul; all they that hate me love death.’

        Proverbs Chapter 30

        1 The words of Agur the son of Jakeh; the burden. The man saith unto Ithiel, unto Ithiel and Ucal:
        2 Surely I am brutish, unlike a man, and have not the understanding of a man;
        3 And I have not learned wisdom, that I should have the knowledge of the Holy One.
        4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, and descended? {N}
        Who hath gathered the wind in his fists? Who hath bound the waters in his garment? {N}
        Who hath established all the ends of the earth? {N}
        What is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou knowest?
        5 Every word of God is tried; He is a shield unto them that take refuge in Him.
        6 Add thou not unto His words, lest He reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. {P}

        The first one tells us that Wisdom, as in the use of knowledge, is a G-dly gift.
        The second section (Proverbs Chapter 30) that there is no one who can urship His way.
        Also, do not forget, that G-d told us that He has no father, and he has no son. So whom would you believe? G-d, or yourself?

        • Who is at Gen 1 , 26 let us make man in our image And yes God new some of his people would hid his name to where say they for get how to spell his holly name Jer 23 , 26 and 27 That is why he said in case you know Proverbs 30 , 4 Who then do you say the messiah is ? You can say we are Gods children so it would be in the same sense ! So if Jehovah created the master worker he then could be called the only begotten Son or the master worker Col 1, 15 So he worked along side Jehovah GOD AS HIS MASTER ! aLL so not to use God name Where all False gods name s are present in the would not be given true honor to our Creator Jehovah God ! All the nations will know I am Jehovah ! Even Jesus said He came in Jehovah s name and we would make it known John 17 , 6 and verse 26 Even the dead sea scrolls and the new scrolls they just found that predates King Josiah which predates the dead sea scrolls by 400 years used YHWH or Jehovah s Name !

          • hyechiel says:

            Dear Daniel;
            One thing I like about Matthew is that he proves the Judaic point of view, and he never intended to.
            1. He proves that Jesus is not “THE” son of G-d.
            2. He proves that Jesus is not the messiah.
            3. He proves that Jesus is not a prophet.
            Now, let us read these verses again, class.
            >>> Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
            Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
            Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
            Matthew 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
            Matthew 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
            Matthew 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. <<<
            19:17; only G-d is good-not a "son"? And Jesus said: ."but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
            Now, by the grammer used, I would say this man was a Gentile, for he asked which commandments; and Jesus responded with the 7 Laws of Noah.
            The last thing is about giving up his possitions and joining Jesus. Same thing today in Jesus and Heri Khrushna movements.
            As for prophets? Last prophet was Malichai. G-d has a prophet in Israel only when a majority of the Jews live in Israel.
            I hope you kept notes, for the master of Life shall give tests. Be good, love your fellow humans, and work for peace and brother-hood for all, and Danny, you shall have a place in Heaven.

          • David says:

            Dear hyechiel,

            First of all it’s a rhetorical question; we even still use rhetorical questions today to make a point.

            The meaning in this rhetorical question is thus:

            All goodness comes from God. Therefore if you are calling me (Jesus) good which I am, then you should also understand that I am good only because I come from God and not because I originate goodness of and by myself.

            As the Son of God, Jesus knew the hearts of all men because that knowledge as his goodness comes from God. Therefore He knew what the young rich man was lacking before he even asked. But rather than immediately telling the young man what he lacked, Jesus first allowed him to list all the things he was doing right.

            This is why our relation with Jesus is so personal. He knows exactly what each individual lacks and what we don’t lack; our personal failings what we need as individuals. My need or failing is different from the next person’s. Remember the woman at the well? We’re all different.

            In this particular case the young rich man put wealth and prestige before God. This as I said is an individual problem with this particular young rich man and does not pertain to all rich people.

            Jesus does not say to other rich people and those with prestige to give up their position in life, for example the chief priests, the Pharisees, the teachers of the law, the leaders of the people, he does not say that.

            The young rich man was probably a Jew, but that is actually immaterial to the lesson Jesus teaches us in this passage. The lesson is Not that we have to give up our possessions but rather that we shouldn’t put anything before God.

            In conclusion, the passage does nothing as you claim. You’ve misjudged it and Jesus.

          • hyechiel says:

            Dear David;
            I aplogise for myself and seveal ministers of the Cross, who also agree with the interpretation I stated. Sad that we did not ask you first, as you have all of the answers.
            All kidding aside,G -d said it, i know Him to be true. Why I cannot accept Christianity. Jesus, Zoroaister, Khrusna and other godsons litter the spiritual sceanery, but all are part and aprcil of your mindset. If you accept Khrushna, to me, it is the sa,e as if you accept Jesus or Zoroaister.
            Why, Torah, Torah, Torah!
            Also, the trinity I do accept is in the book of Micah; “What does the L-rd require of you, o’Humankind? But to do justly, love mercy and walk in Humility with the L-rd, your G-d.

  5. hyechiel says:

    Dear Annelise;
    In the first century CE we almost had the “Day” the prophets predicted. You see, there are three peoples on the Earth; all gentiles who do not observe any of His ways, knowingly, the Noahide, who abserve the Seven Laws/Teachings of Noah, and the Nation of Israel/Sinai Covenant and Torah.
    I would say-if I had to put a letter to it, that you are a Noahide. That is, a member of His First people. Many go through a ceremony now days, and join officialy the Noahide Covenant, others read His word, and do so by understanding, but do not make a cerimony of it.
    I cannot say, but I am sure there are many more Christians who have followed your path, more or less, than those who have converted to Judaism. They read what G-d said, and do so.
    Now as for the first century CE? They were called G-dfearing gentiles. It was to these people Jesus addressed in Matthew 19:16-19, when he told the man who asked him what is needed to attain Salvation. Nothing about worshiping a physical anything, just the Seven Teachings of HaShem. So no one can take it from you; you are on the right track and GBY for your sensitivity to others.
    Check on web for Noahide house of worship, and see if that is something you would want to pursue.

  6. Annelise says:

    Do you know where I can find the historical sources about these ‘righteous Gentiles’? I’ve heard a lot about them but I’ve never seen the writings about them.

    I haven’t been able to find anyone near where I live (Sydney, Australia) who believes like this, but I do believe that Noachide communities should always be as closely attached as possible to the Jewish communities close to them. We’re only a ‘community’ in a partial sense, I guess. I do have some friends who aren’t Jewish but left left Christianity to identify as ‘Karaite Jews’, and some Muslim friends, all of whom have something closely in common with the Jewish community, as do my Christian friends who sincerely believe they are only worshipping the Creator. Those friendships are precious to me. But I feel the most in common with the Jewish community here. It’s an interesting experience!

    Thanks for your encouragement 🙂

    • hyechiel says:

      Dear Annelise;
      First of all, thank you for the insights into your Australian community. I like to keep up with positive information, which I can share with adversaries, to dampen their desire to argue against G-d’s word as He gave it.
      One site is wikipedia; There are many others, as well. This one I like for it’s simplesity.
      I feel that Noahide and Jews are twin seblings. We both have a form of, or a structure in how we live from HaShem. Just that Jews are given more detail to deal with.
      I also feel that the more we can positivily interact, the closer we shall come to His promised age, or better yet, that we bring it in, as our accomplishment.
      Who knows? Maybe we shall appreciate it more.
      Shalom, down under;

      • Annelise says:

        Thank you 🙂 I wouldn’t put the equality in those terms exactly. Israel is God’s firstborn son, and none of the younger sons should want to take that away from you. Also, you have a special and unique closeness to Him and to aspects of His purpose that I can’t mimic from outside and wouldn’t want to. Some things, I can’t even see into. When Hashem offered the Torah to you, you were blessed to have taken it.

        That doesn’t mean that we aren’t equal as human beings, or that we don’t both have places to walk on with Him that are far beyond our expectations. The main thing is not to compare but to respect and uphold each other as servants together under God, as younger and older brothers.

        I see the immense value in this covenant and so I would really like to be part of it. But I still have questions I need to work through about it before I could take it on with sincerity and full commitment. And I also believe that I haven’t understood even a fraction of God’s purpose and relationship with people who seek Him from other nations. I believe it would be dishonouring to my relationship with Him and to the things I want to communicate with other people if I don’t seriously consider surrendering to God without converting. Rabbi Yisroel wrote a post on this blog about how knowing God is not just a Jewish thing, it’s a human thing… and this impresses on me… the fact that different parts of creation can show different things about what it is that we as created beings owe to Him, and can receive of closeness to Him.

        It’s really good to be walking beside you. Amen to what you prayed!

        • hyechiel says:

          Dear Annelise;
          Thank you. Beautiful. We are all equal before HaShem. He siad so, and I believe and know it to be so.
          Have a good day and enjoy our walk with Him.

          • Annelise says:

            It’s true that we are equal in the sense that we are all created in the womb by the same One, and that we are all servants in front of Him; everything we have comes from Him and goes to Him. There are also aspects of inequality in that we each have different blessings and different types of relationship with God. But these inequalities aren’t a source for pride, and we can know that Hashem is just and kind in the way He gives different things to each of us. Knowing Him is really more than enough for us and walking on the road He gives us is better than anything else we could have 🙂 So there’s no point in comparing ourselves to someone else, except if they are inspiring us to attain something that is meant for us. Otherwise we can be thankful and support one another with our different strengths and the different gifts we have experienced. I believe that Jews have an opportunity for a particularly close relationship with God, and I am joyful to see that!

          • hyechiel says:

            Dear Annelise;
            Thank you. It is Jewish belief that someday, all shall share equally in the opportunity He has taught us. You do not have to be Jewish to go to Heaven, or any lable, just follow His way and you shall be blessed.
            So why the Torah? To make it easier for all, and to all, His Blessings.

          • Annelise says:

            He doesn’t withhold Himself from anyone who seeks Him sincerely.

          • Annelise says:

            I guess you can look at it in terms of Shir haShirim… this can be read best as a song about the love between God and Israel. It can also be read as a song about the love between God and humanity as a whole. So for non-Jews, we have a role as the friends of the lovers, and in a different reading we have a role as the lover who seeks to know God. It’s both, it’s kind of hard to explain but it’s beautiful both ways.

          • Annelise says:

            (To downplay this is to forget and lose access to the blessing that was given to us as well. “The angel of the Lord called to Abraham from heaven a second time and said, ‘I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son… through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me.’”)

          • Annelise says:

            This is in reply to your comment above “… It is Jewish belief that someday…” – for some reason they are out of order. I just want to say, thank you! And may it happen quickly.

  7. hyechiel says:

    Dear Shomer;
    You are correct that there is the two houses. HaShem does not see the differences, humans do.
    For Him, all Nations are Sanctified. So if you are on His “team”, just follow His way.
    That’s all.
    Why the Jew? Someone is needed to Kvetch!

  8. hyechiel says:

    Dear Friends;
    I appreciate the conversations here. Intelligent and meaningful.
    I found a song that may express all of our feelings;
    May all of us share in His Blessings.

  9. hyechiel says:

    For tose who want to learn more about Judaism and it’s texts, this website may help.
    There are many liks to current and past studies, on several levels. May help clearify some questions you have. Enjoy.

  10. hyechiel says:

    Dear Daniel;
    One more item; What sex does the writter of Proverbs say Wisdom is?
    Some confusion here? Also, read what yourphariseefriend has to say about faith, as ewxpressed in Judaism and in Christianty. Here, also, are two different directions.

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