Hell And Idolatry
I cannot tell you how many times I have heard that if one doesn’t accept Jesus as savior that he or she is bound to spend eternity in a place of endless torment in either a fiery pit (or in utter darkness believed by the more caring Christians). I grudgingly believed this for many years after all didn’t the New Testament speak of this punishment for the unbeliever. Later I awoke to some startling facts. The Hebrew bible didn’t speak of such a place. Hell in the Hebrew bible is either the stomach of a big fish (Jonah 2:2) or a place where even the unbelieving Pharaoh was being comforted (Ezekiel 32:30-32) Comforted in Hell! Certainly not the hell of the New Testament, but the Hell of the Jewish Scriptures.
Now as to Idolatry I found out that the God of Israel states clearly that to worship any other god is idolatry. This brings up an important question. How is one to know how to tell the true God from a false god? We are not left in the dark concerning that question. The Torah simply states:
“They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not to NEW gods that CAME NEWLY UP(hmm) whom YOUR FATHERS FEARED NOT. (another hmmm) (Deut 32:17)
Ask yourselves; Just who did our forefathers worship prior to the birth of Jesus??
Deuteronomy chapter 4 states that when God spoke to the entire Jewish nation we saw no form we only heard a voice. The prophet Hosea 11:9 states “For I am God not man” which is written in the Torah Numbers 23:19. Does one want to specifically know about God? To whom should one turn? To the Christian Missionary? No! Deuteronomy 32:7 states who we should turn to for that information:
“Ask your father and he will show you, your elders and they will tell you”
Yes, possibly our earthly father may not walk in a relationship with God, and that is why God states “Ask Your Elders” It is they who carry the torch of the God of Israel, not someone who worships a three person god.
I ask any who read this paper to consider that the New Testament speaks of people who are possessed with demons (try to find one case of this in the Jewish Bible, you will not) for such exists only in the imagination of the Christian bible. Notice that Satan is only mentioned a few times in the Hebrew bible. Not one time does he do anything except tempt individuals. The NewTestament makes a god out of him with powers in opposition to God. Yet he only operates under control of God in the True bible. (see Job chapters 1 and 2)
I am not afraid or concerned with hell, I am concerned about the idolatry that the New Testament teaches as fact, and so should you.
p.s. WARNING!! Read Deuteronomy 13
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Yisroel C. Blumenthal
Great article, Tzvi!
I’ve been missing you a lot.
“The NewTestament makes a god out of him with powers in opposition to God. Yet he only operates under control of God in the True bible. (see Job chapters 1 and 2).”
You seem to be saying that Satan, in Christianity, has equivalent, but negative powers to God; a kind of Gnostic or Yin Yang dualism. If you are meaining this, can you point to a verse in the Bible that says this. None of the verses below have this dualistic nature but are in perfect harmony with the Satan of the Tenakh.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
Ephesians 2:2 “Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience.”
1st Peter 5:8 “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.”
You obviously didn’t fully read my paper. I stated that the Satan of the Tanach is only mentioned a few times. He challenges, He afflicts (with God’s approval) but he is very limited in his power. He does nothing without the approval of God (Job 1,2) He doesn’t have any emmisaries who indwell anyone much less possess them. You only find such nonsense in the New Testament. In stating that the New Testament makes a god out of Satan, it is because we have the Christian God (ie Jesus) Casting Satan who only operates by the True God out of people. Since God allows and sends the Satan why would God cast him out, and why is he now an enemy rather than an agent of God. Such nonsense is only seen in a “Mishagoyim hoyse” Pardon me I forgot you probably do not know Yiddish. ” Insane asylum.”
Tsvi for free.
You said “Such nonsense is only seen in a “Mishagoyim hoyse” Pardon me I forgot you probably do not know Yiddish. ”
What possessed you to say “probably!” You obviously have not read any of my stuff. What was that, I heard you. Did you say “and nonsense!”
Now I know why Simon and Garfunkel wrote that (prophetic) song – for you :
“I’d rudda be a yankel den a goy, oy yoy yoy, den a goy, den a goyoyoyoyoyoyoy.”
Love you, for now.
Sorry I jumped to an unwarranted conclusion that you were not a Jew. My comment on “You probably don’t understand” was very prideful of me, so I ask your forgiveness.
You asked me for a verse. Well you gave it. 2 Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world etc etc… The NT does make a god out of him and most Christians believe he acts in opposition to God as the enemy of God and his purposes.
If it’s not to late, The new testment claims to be the good news, unless you do not believe. Then you will suffer for eternity. Deuteromony 13 says if a town of people worship other gods you are to take the whole town to the sword. What is the teaching-understanding of Deuteronomy 13 ?
if demosn don’t possess people and satan has no emissaryies id like to know what it is im seeing when I cast demons out of people and ive seen them for myself…please enlighten me with your wisdom lol
I’ll bet you have no photos either.